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Welcome to the iDesign Lab a Podcast where creativity and curiosity meet style and design hosted by Tiffany Woolley an Interior Designer, a style enthusiast along with her serial entrepreneur husband Scott. A place where they explore the rich and vibrant world of interior design and it’s constant evolution in style. iDesign Lab is your ultimate Interior design podcast where we explore the rich and vibrant world of design and it’s constant evolution in style and trends. iDesign lab provides industry insight, discussing the latest trends, styles and everything in between to better help you style your life through advice from trend setters, designers, influences, fabricators and manufacturers as well as personal stories that inspire, motivate and excite. Join us on this elevated, informative and lively journey into the world of all things Design. For more information about iDesign Lab and Tiffany & Scott Woolley visit the website at www.twinteriors.com/podcast.
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The Architect of Sound: How Brent Look Designs Musical Experiences
Ever wondered what life looks like for musicians behind the headliner spotlight? Meet Brent Look, a seasoned guitarist with 35+ years in the music industry who takes us on a journey through his remarkable career with surprising candor and enthusiasm.
The conversation begins with Brent sharing how he transformed his early musical passion into a full-time career almost immediately – a rarity in the industry. While most young musicians juggle day jobs, Brent was already opening for rock icons like Aerosmith and Journey by his late teens. His stories of life on the road with Scott Stapp from Creed, including a profound experience performing for tsunami victims in Japan and for troops aboard an aircraft carrier, reveal the less visible but deeply meaningful moments in a musician's life.
What makes this discussion particularly valuable is Brent's perspective on the music industry's radical transformation. He describes the complete reversal of the business model – from artists making money on album sales while touring served as promotion, to today's landscape where touring and merchandise generate revenue while streaming provides minimal income. For anyone fascinated by music economics, this insider view is gold.
Beyond performance, Brent has diversified into production, engineering, songwriting, and teaching. His approach to music education stands out for its emphasis on motivation and building confidence. The joy he takes in watching students develop – including teaching rock techniques to everyone from pro athletes like Dan Marino's children to Jill DeFerrin – shows a musician who finds fulfillment in passing on his craft.
Whether you're a music enthusiast, an aspiring musician, or simply curious about creative careers, this episode offers rare insights into what sustainable success in the music industry really looks like. Join us for this candid conversation about dedication, adaptation, and the enduring power of authentic musical connection in a digital age.
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This is iDesign Lab, a podcast where creativity and curiosity meet style and design. Curator of interiors, furnishings and lifestyles. Hosted by Tiffany Woolley, an interior designer and a style enthusiast, along with her serial entrepreneur husband Scott, idesign Lab is your ultimate design podcast where we explore the rich and vibrant world of design and its constant evolution in style and trends. Idesign Lab provides industry insight, discussing the latest trends, styles and everything in between to better help you style your life, through advice from trendsetters, designers, influencers, innovators, fabricators and manufacturers, as well as personal stories that inspire, motivate and excite. And join us on this elevated, informative and lively journey into the world of all things design. Today, on the iDesign Lab podcast, we welcome Brent Look, a seasoned guitarist with over 35 years in the music industry. He's toured with legends, opened for icons like Aerosmith and Journey and taught everyone from rock stars to pro athletes. He's a recording artist, producer, engineer and instructor. Please welcome Brent Look.
Tiffany Woolley:Welcome to the iDesign Lab podcast. Today we have Brent Look, who we are fortunate enough to see at least once a week in our world, but who has designed a very exciting life around music.
Scott Woolley:Yes, yes.
Tiffany Woolley:And has, you know, quite a career and quite a story to tell. So we welcome you today here.
Scott Woolley:It's great to be here, and introduce us to you. So let me just say so. Brent has been in the music industry for a long time.
Tiffany Woolley:Okay, I'm jumping in.
Scott Woolley:A session player. He's played with so many different great rock and roll bands. Still does I mean? We just heard that he played at Mar-a-Lago with Kid Rock. Is that correct, Kid Rock?
Brent Look:for Donald Trump. I mean, how cool of a gig is that? That was a great gig, yeah, and he stood up and gave us a big round of applause.
Scott Woolley:But you're also a producer, you're a teacher, I mean engineer, a songwriter, and you've worked with so many interesting and fun people over the years.
Tiffany Woolley:It's safe to say you live, eat and breathe music. I live, eat and breathe.
Brent Look:In fact, somebody was asking me so what's your hobby? Like music, but how do you?
Tiffany Woolley:design a life around music.
Scott Woolley:How did you get into music? How did you first? Is it the guitar or is it? Yeah, I first started with guitar because you're an amazing, incredible guitar player as well yes, I thank you, along with just about every other instrument you can think of.
Brent Look:Yeah, I started on guitar, I started taking lessons and and then I branched out from that and I started doing piano, because once you learn one instrument, to learn the next one is a little easier, because you know how to practice, how to excel. What's important, um, don't go down this rabbit hole. You'll waste a lot of time right. And then I picked up percussion drums and I always sang all along and I took lessons, vocal lessons also but at what point did it kind of like gravitate into a career?
Brent Look:I knew when I was like oh wow. I knew when I was like 13 years old that this was what I was going to do so did you start a band? Yes, I made a band we used to practice in my house and drive my family crazy so because we were loud but it was great. And then I kept putting bands together. Then eventually then we started playing some clubs. I found a band that we played clubs the Moods.
Scott Woolley:Was that in Florida? Yes, it was in Florida, always in Florida.
Brent Look:Always in Florida for at least before a national thing happened. Florida, always in Florida for at least before a national thing happened. So we then I played with the Moods and then we eventually got a deal and we played at the producer for the Eagles studio, bill Simzik, and it was a bass recording studio which is my favorite studio of all time.
Tiffany Woolley:And where is that?
Brent Look:That was in Coconut Grove.
Tiffany Woolley:It's no longer there, the Eagles used to record there.
Brent Look:Coconut Grove had so many great little plots like that yeah and that was under Sassoon Records and Filmworks, which was a relative of Vidal Sassoon, uh-huh. And he used Eric Schilling, the great Eric Schilling, who was our engineer, who ended up engineering a lot of my projects. Really, yeah, I did a lot with Eric Eric's great, so he guided us, he did that. And then, you know, we had the Moods. We opened up for some national acts, the Aerosmith yeah, we opened for Aerosmith, we opened for Journey, and then I got involved in the band after that. After that band kind of had its way. Everything was great, but there were issues in the band.
Tiffany Woolley:Personalities.
Brent Look:So yeah, we did Mood Candy. We opened up for some of those other acts that I've done, like the Blue Oyster Cult and Heart Cheap Trick A lot of the 80s, the ones that were big at that time.
Brent Look:Yeah, those were wonderful days. I have to tell you a funny story. One of our bass players, the first big gig we ever did, he told me he goes. I'm like, wow, this is going to be a lot different than playing at a club, when you open up for a huge act and he goes don't be nervous, you'll be fine, you'll be fine, everything's going to be fine. So we start playing, I calm down, you know, and I have contacts, and I have my contacts in, so I couldn't really make out the audience.
Tiffany Woolley:Oh really.
Brent Look:It was like a blur.
Tiffany Woolley:Literally.
Brent Look:Yeah. And then I look over at him and I'm supposed to be nervous, right, and he's standing there like this. He was the one that was nervous. That's so funny. But I played for Giovanni, which is another artist.
Scott Woolley:Ricky Eric was on Universal Music Group and did some solo work, so you've done this all in South Florida.
Brent Look:Yes, based in South Florida but going different parts of the country. And it was great.
Scott Woolley:Is there any one memorable tour?
Brent Look:Anything with Scott Stapp. Anything with Scott Stapp was great.
Voice Over:Creed Creed yes.
Brent Look:Did some shows as Creed. Most of my shows were as Scott Stapp.
Scott Woolley:Solo, as solo.
Brent Look:And sometimes they were billed as Creed to create a thing overseas, like in Japan.
Tiffany Woolley:So you did that.
Brent Look:Yeah, we did the Japan thing.
Tiffany Woolley:Amazing, what a fabulous experience.
Brent Look:Yeah, it was really good, but there's a little sad part of that. We were invited through the State Department and we went after the tsunami to go visit with victims' families.
Tiffany Woolley:Oh, wow.
Brent Look:And we went to where the main tsunami was, and then we went to the aircraft carrier at George Washington and played for the troops.
Tiffany Woolley:So you played on the aircraft carrier. Yes, we did. What a memory.
Brent Look:Yeah. What a memory, so many great ones along the way, me and Scott were like shell-shocked when we saw how the tsunami impacted and how it was wiped out it was tough.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, I feel like that's something you probably can only see to believe. Yeah, you couldn't believe it, Like you have to really see it.
Brent Look:We went where? Because we went through the US government. We went where the average civilian was not allowed to go Wow.
Scott Woolley:So it was pretty incredible. So some of the perks in going on tour, yeah, yeah, we were so tired.
Brent Look:I remember doing the set list and me and Scott were sitting in this room going, okay, here's the 13 songs. Now on this page there's 14 songs. We just put them in order. We couldn't figure out what the problem is. It's the same songs in a different order. We were so tired because of the trip getting there and they moved us pretty quickly and after about five minutes we're like wait, we wrote the same song twice.
Tiffany Woolley:The things that happen on tour, right that's true. So when did you know that this was going to be your career?
Brent Look:I actually knew it when I wanted it to be my career when I was 13,. I actually knew it when I wanted it to be my career when I was 13. But when I was like 16, 17, I wasn't old enough to really be in these clubs, but they used to sneak me in and I'd play for bands that were much older than me and I got that experience. And you know, most of my bands were always until big things happened were always much older than me Because I was at that level.
Tiffany Woolley:And so how would you go about finding these bands if they weren't like your school friends? Usually it seemed like they found me. Okay.
Brent Look:So it's like I would be at a gig performing and then other people would say you know what? Can you come jam with our band?
Scott Woolley:But most people who are in the music business at an early age, like you're talking about in their teens and so forth, or early 20s, aren't getting work on a regular basis. So did you have another job or you were completely covering.
Brent Look:That was my job. That was always my job.
Scott Woolley:You paid all your bills just in music.
Brent Look:You never had to get that I think I worked at a clothing store for a couple months right, I think it was called county seat, it was oh my god, I remember that place yeah, I think I worked there for a couple months but then, um, because I said I don't have enough steady work, you know, so that was my part-time thing, but things got really steady after that.
Scott Woolley:It was pretty quick so working with so many different artists and and well-known artists and well-known bands and groups, and touring with them and so forth. There's been one big change that's happened over the years, from when you started analog to today, digital, digital, and now it's at a level where records are actually coming back, which is great, especially for our kids.
Tiffany Woolley:That is great. That is wonderful, it is awesome are actually coming back, which is great. Yes, I know it is crazy, right, it is wonderful, it is awesome.
Scott Woolley:But how is that like? Has that affected your career? Oh yeah, Well, actually you know Is it good or better or bad.
Brent Look:There's two things Now that I'm doing a lot of this stuff, releasing stuff under my own record label, chart Top Records, and my publishing company Addison Holdings Music Publishing. The old days, to get anything really big happening, you had to be under a major label. Makes sense and there's no guarantee that that's going to work out.
Tiffany Woolley:Right.
Brent Look:Today it's kind of timed itself out right for me, because today we know a lot of these big labels are asking these big artists to be on their label, where they're begging for artists a lot of times, because people that are famous like you know, that are really big. They can do it themselves Right, they might use them for distribution Right. But it's completely different. Back then we remember that concert tickets were very inexpensive.
Tiffany Woolley:I know I love what's happening now.
Scott Woolley:But music artists were making their money with selling their albums and weren't making much on touring. Touring was about promoting the album, because it's where you make your money. It's the opposite now.
Brent Look:But today it's the opposite. Yeah, you're correct, it's the opposite. And the merchandising and the merchandise, Merchandisers were always kind of a big deal even back then. But I mean these tours, some of these major acts are putting together, they're cleaning up on these tours.
Tiffany Woolley:Right, and I do like the fact that Kid Rock recently did make it pretty well known that he's trying to make a passion project to make tour, or I should say concert tickets affordable again, because it's something that has eluded so many families.
Brent Look:It's crazy what the ticket prices are Ticket prices are crazy. They're out of control because a lot of times you know there's another seller involved.
Tiffany Woolley:A couple in between.
Brent Look:Yeah, that's so true, and before you know it, I mean some of these people. Like we never had this issue years ago where people couldn't afford to go see their favorite artist.
Tiffany Woolley:Correct. That's just crazy.
Brent Look:Yeah, yeah, it's out of hand.
Tiffany Woolley:Things have changed in that regard. Yeah, all right, so let's take it back a little bit again further. So you now decide you're making your career through music. Yes, what did you do on like a general basis to stay booked or to stay, you know, ahead of things Like what did your day to day look like with this as your career.
Brent Look:Well, we had people that were booking agents that always we had for the longest time we had King Music, which was this guy named Walter B Walters.
Scott Woolley:He was the brother of Suzanne Somers' manager Suzanne Somers' manager was her husband, alan Hamill. Yeah, I dealt with both of them.
Brent Look:Yeah, so this guy. No, I think this was another manager before that time. Okay, because it didn't start out like that. Yeah, this was an earlier manager because we're going back a long time here, so it always seemed like there was work. And then if we couldn't find work, somebody else in the band my friend Andy, who played bass guitar would find, make some phone calls and do it. They didn't want me to do it so much because they wanted me to focus on writing.
Tiffany Woolley:Okay.
Scott Woolley:So, to do everything you've done. Did you need to have a manager, an agent, a lawyer? Yeah, we had agents like that. Do you still?
Brent Look:Is this still important? No, I've been doing it myself, I think, just only for the fact that I've been involved in this for so long, I know how it works. Even though it's changed, there are many principles of it that have stayed the same, well, and I feel like it's so cool to watch, like because, through my girls, obviously the passion for music that has been carried on through you as well, Like Benson Boone is coming to mind because, I'm fascinated myself just watching this evolution of growth.
Tiffany Woolley:Yes, and obviously he's the big name that people know and recognize, but I feel like now there's so much more emphasis on like his other band members, like at least for my girls and I because we saw them and you know the his girl guitar became like kind of like I don't know.
Tiffany Woolley:we now see her at Coachella, like. So people think of the headliner instead of realizing the whole crew and the whole group and what it really does take to put together a band and there's so many other people having amazing careers besides just Benson Boone. I mean that whole band has an incredible journey ahead.
Brent Look:True, and the band thing is something to talk about too, because it's been for a while lately that we, like you were saying we only know the front person in this band or the main artist and we don't know who the other band members are. But in the old days we knew these bands.
Tiffany Woolley:You're're right, we knew all the people in these bands, you're right. You're right because, look at like with Benson Boone, I mean Queen they're bringing out, you know. Brian May Brian right and highlighting all that. I mean. I guess that's what I'm trying to bring.
Brent Look:I hope that comes back more because these people, uh, are a big part of it, right? I mean, without them, it doesn't work. And another thing that you're starting to see a little bit more of we went through a period of time where different tours were always completely different background performers in the band, and you're seeing a lot of these bands. Keep some of these people and they're part of the band. That's it. This is the band.
Scott Woolley:Well, I think a lot of it is. Music's changed over the years. So in the 80s and the 90s there were bands, you know the Bon. Jovies, the Billy Joels, the Springsteens. They came up together literally yeah and you did know all the members of the band, but then, as rap came in and it became one guy, it became one person, even though there are other people but you never knew, it wasn't discussed those names and those people.
Tiffany Woolley:Or the longevity wasn't there either.
Brent Look:That's true. It's a welcome change if we start knowing more members in these bands, if they keep the same band.
Tiffany Woolley:Which I feel like is so critical to actual music.
Brent Look:Yes, do you mean it is? And you know a lot of these bands that we grew up with. They all played a part in writing of these tunes. It wasn't like the writers were completely. Now we know that there are people that write songs and the bands and artists end up using them, but there was a lot of music coming from inside that band.
Tiffany Woolley:Yes.
Brent Look:Creating inside that band.
Tiffany Woolley:And when you say creating music, is that the tune or is that the lyrics?
Brent Look:That can be both. A lot of times. Whoever the singer is will obviously do the lyrics, but sometimes it happens by somebody else that might be great at lyrics. They just don't sing well.
Tiffany Woolley:So we're having we've had that conversation, yeah, a few times. We've had some these behind the scene conversations.
Scott Woolley:Like you know, we're going through that process now with you, with, yes, the ruffles, the ruffles. It's going to be a great band. So you know, started writing songs and now you're producing those songs, bringing those songs to life. You know the whole design process and creating and making a song. You know, and hopefully it becomes a magical song that people will love and follow and want to play and listen to you know and it's quite a process, you know, in creating songs and just from the writing, and then you know putting the right instruments behind it.
Brent Look:Yes, and when we record them in the studio. They're going to learn a lot from that also, right, seeing how it's put together right there, like you know what, I think there should be a keyboard part on that part, correct you know. And I think the band should drop out now. We've done a lot of that now without being in the studio and I kind of guide them. I try not to create the part for them, I try to guide them in the direction where they'll come up with it, the process of thinking, you know, like on the latest song, the bridge, there's no bridge. Well, what if we go to F? I mean, it's in the key. We haven't gone there once. Let's go there, right, you know so.
Scott Woolley:So how is that process when you're in a recording studio with you know, a Scott staff or someone?
Brent Look:else.
Scott Woolley:You know, is it an arduous process? Is it a process that just comes out? You know, I wrote a book recently and I explained to people it was like giving birth to a baby. Because you know how that is the aggravation of just the stress of trying to get all the words out and get your thoughts out. And why it's in your head to get it done, but how? Difficult is that from a standpoint of producing a song.
Brent Look:And well you kind of have an idea of what you want. But you know, when you get into a full studio you might hear things a little different. And you're like, now that I'm hearing it back, you know, I kind of want to change that part. So you have an outline but anything goes in there. I mean, there's been times in my studio I'll come up with a part that goes over a verse or chorus, just like this song is missing something, and you'll come up with the part in the studio on the spot and you're like that makes it, that makes it completely. You know, and it's production.
Brent Look:What can I do? You know something I learned from the great Eric Schilling. That always taught me Eric, because Eric's had a lot of success and he always told me he goes, it's like a film. He said and you know film very well he goes, it's like a film. Do you think the audience is getting bored? You know, and when he told me we worked on writing songs, when he guided, he helped me a lot too, like with production stuff early on, because he did a lot of my stuff. So he would say you know what you're, you're losing, you're losing your uh, my attention here on this part. You're on the second verse. What I like the first verse and chorus. What are you going to do on the second verse to keep me interested? That's different than that first verse. That keeps the verse together. Add this. Let's do this. Maybe have this happen. Take this out. Now the second chorus. We're up to the second chorus. Let's make it a little busier than the first chorus.
Scott Woolley:For people who are listening and watching this podcast, explain to them Eric Schilling.
Brent Look:Eric Schilling is somebody who played a major part in early parts of my career all the way up through early 2000s, did a bunch of my solo projects, did the Moods. My first band did Mood, which was a derivative of the Moods Band, and then the other derivative of the Mood Band, mood Candy. He did that too and he's done some of my solo stuff. Eric is Eric is an engineer.
Scott Woolley:And he's worked with a lot of other.
Brent Look:Yeah, Eric has 31 platinum albums on his belt. And like, I think, like I don't know, 17 Grammys Something crazy and a couple of Emmys, and I know he does the audio production for, I believe, the Grammys and the Latin Grammys. But I learned a lot from him because he was working with these artists. He wasn't a producer on most of that, he was an engineer, but he's sitting next to these producers all the time for so many years.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, it's like seeped in.
Brent Look:So I learned a lot from that.
Tiffany Woolley:So what was your? Rock and roll is probably your primary genre, but you're versatile. How do you keep yourself like able to? To do all yeah, yeah, and I have to jump in to wear a lot of different hats.
Brent Look:Yeah, and that can be tough sometimes. But you know when I have to jump in to wear a lot of different hats, yeah, and that can be tough sometimes. But you know, when I was trained young I did rock a lot of my own time as far as lessons I'm talking. But I took classical and I took jazz, both on guitar and piano, and then I studied it also under drums. So I knew I learned a lot from those. I even had a jazz guitar teacher. Tell me once he goes you're learning all this stuff with me. Because you're going to take all this stuff you're learning, you're going to put into a rock song.
Tiffany Woolley:I'm like, yeah, that's what you know. So do you like rock better than?
Brent Look:rock is my favorite thing, but this uh, but classical is pretty awesome so you've been.
Scott Woolley:You've been a teacher for a long time.
Brent Look:Yes.
Scott Woolley:With a lot of interesting students yes, as you know. Teaching music and teaching drums, teaching piano, teaching guitar, working with vocals yes. Helping create songs yes, and so forth. I mean, you're a teacher to our three kids, yes, and guiding them in their career. But Jill DeFerrin, who was a very good friend, of ours.
Brent Look:He took some guitar from me, dan.
Scott Woolley:Marino's kids I taught Tell us about teaching people. How is that teaching individuals?
Brent Look:Yeah, well, it gives me. It's different than teaching in class because from the first lesson on, I'm like studying and see what they even if they're from the beginning what comes easy to them, what comes harder to them, and that kind of gives me a roadmap. Okay, we're going to do this, but I'm also going to spend a little time extra on this, because that's a little harder for them. And the bottom line is, when I teach, I want them to learn what they need and I teach them songs that I think they're going to need to help their skills, and I also teach them stuff that they like, because if they like it, the motivation is big.
Scott Woolley:Well, you, have a unique way of teaching as well. You're a very positive, motivating individual that really seems to home in on an individual and lift them up in teaching them. I mean, I've seen it firsthand.
Voice Over:Yeah, I want them to love it.
Scott Woolley:You have a talent in just how you interact with people and teaching them. Did you learn that from someone?
Brent Look:Did you experience that from someone? No, I've always done that. I just want to motivate Always been a positive person, positive motivation and get them to believe, but also tell them if you know you got to spend more time, you got to work harder here.
Tiffany Woolley:How bad do you want it?
Scott Woolley:but most people look at okay, I gotta learn music, or as kids learn you know. Oh, what is that? This is going to be a pain in the ass. Oh, this is a drudgery.
Brent Look:But you changed that whole feeling yeah, I'm always trying to figure out the situation. How am I going to get this person motivated? What do they like, right? What am I going to do to get them the most? Motivation is the big thing.
Scott Woolley:Yeah, I think that what we're talking about from a music standpoint and lessons is so important for the youth. You know and I'll say in this country because I know that when we went to school, music was a big thing in school.
Tiffany Woolley:Yes, it died for a while it's still a big thing.
Scott Woolley:It's not what it was. It's not what it was. Yeah, no, it's not.
Brent Look:And the arts, and it's good for their thinking.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, oh yeah, it gives them something to do. Of course, and it's good for their thinking. Yeah, it gives them something to do. It's good for learning. It's like thinking in another language, totally.
Brent Look:Yeah, how to perfect, how to get good. Well, it's Even with competition, like if they're in school band or something. It's a competition and life is competition. It's so true.
Scott Woolley:What I see the most important is the self-esteem, the confidence, the confidence it gives kids to be able to get up in front of people and play Like our kids.
Tiffany Woolley:Now they can't wait to get up in front of the next stage. I love that.
Brent Look:They can't wait. They love it.
Tiffany Woolley:I love that they really do. They play all day, sunday too. It's their thing, it really is.
Brent Look:I love working with them and they do really well individually. And then the audience, I'll tell them. Then we play together as a band and that's great to be able to work on them one-on-one, and then we play as a band.
Tiffany Woolley:And they started harmonizing and it's so impressive and I also find them picking up new things so much faster. That's right, I mean. So that makes me understand a little bit more behind my own love of music. But to realize like this is a vibe, it is, it's a flow, and once they learn like.
Brent Look:When they learn like, let's say, they learn this song with harmony, this song with harmony. The next song to do the harmony, even if it's a different harmony, is going to be easier. You know, harmony, the next song to do the harmony, even if it's a different harmony, is going to be easier, you know. So I, I was telling them in some bands I would sing lead on some songs and some songs I would sing harmony on the choruses or verses or whatever. And I was telling, um, I was telling them, I'm like, after a while it just becomes natural. They sing the lead line, you hear it and you just harmonize it right away. Right, that's what'll happen.
Scott Woolley:So you've worked with so many interesting, unique and great you know music artists and yes and so forth. Is there any one trait that you kind of see that they all have? Uh, that makes them you, you know, great.
Brent Look:One of the things it's like the dedication. The dedication, yeah, you know like.
Scott Woolley:So it's very much like an athlete.
Brent Look:So you know music artist it is, I think it is. It's the dedication the time, it's totally dedication. They want it so bad.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, they live.
Brent Look:They live and breathe.
Tiffany Woolley:Breathe yeah.
Brent Look:Obviously, you know, especially with anybody, they have to keep doing what they're doing, like to be in school and do well there. And if they have a job, they have to keep doing well at their job. But their spare time is, like, so dedicated to music and some artists get the like. I was very fortunate, I hardly had to work a real job.
Tiffany Woolley:Right, which is really amazing that you were able to build a life of doing what you love.
Brent Look:That's why they say you never work a day in your life, then yeah, and it's like anything else, it's networking and putting yourself out there.
Tiffany Woolley:And you've had a lot of growth through the industry yourself. I mean, what would be like your favorite part of it? I guess, what is your most exciting part of being in this industry?
Brent Look:I think, the most exciting part is building something. I love building songs. I love building songs with other artists. I really do love performing too, too. So you're using the word build.
Scott Woolley:Like I would use the word create, create.
Brent Look:Yes, that's a different word, but you're building upon something by adding. I think of it because you're adding layers to it as you're designing it and creating it, and I probably always call it Because I, like in general, I use the word build a lot Because when I was in high school I used to hang out with this guy who used to build custom guitars. Oh wow, Start from the beginning and build the guitar. I learned a lot.
Tiffany Woolley:So how do you even talk about an instrument? How do you know if your instrument is good? I mean, obviously it sounds good, but how do you evolve and grow, like in that whole genre I mean?
Brent Look:Do my particular instrument.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, the instrument, yeah, I actually try to use, knowing which ones are better.
Scott Woolley:So what are you kind of saying, Like what's the difference?
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, the brands and, you know, are they keeping up? Like we were having a podcast the other day and they were saying like how for Tiger Woods trying to deal with Nike and supposedly like Nike's instruments were well, they're his golf clubs.
Brent Look:But they were terrible. Yeah, we see that all the time in endorsement things.
Tiffany Woolley:Right, like, how do you align yourself with certain guitar? I mean, I've seen your collections pretty impressive and it's just, I guess, how do we, you know, as a layperson, know it? Well, you know, it's like.
Brent Look:Tiger Woods and like a lot of these people, they're pro at whatever they do. They start to figure out over the years. What is the best thing for them Doesn't mean it's the best instrument for somebody else Right. But it usually should mean that a really name brand, quality company. You'll probably find something there, but I have found instruments that are off-brand.
Brent Look:And for some reason I'm like why does this sound so good and why does this play so good? I could have gotten lucky, because even if things come off assembly lines especially with instruments like guitars and violins no two are ever the same.
Tiffany Woolley:Which is yeah, that's a whole nother, and you might get lucky and find something really amazing.
Brent Look:And we will see some of these artists like, especially with guitar players and bass players, like Sting's been using the same bass forever. We saw, you know, some of these guitar players. Brian May's been using the same guitar forever. Really, yeah, they built that. I think themselves. Him and his father, I think, built that guitar when he was younger. But I have certain things that I really like and if it feels good in my hand and sounds good because I'm getting older, I just want to make sure that I can play. I play a lot. If you count how much I play with my students, I'm playing all day, so I mean it's nonstop. And then when I'm not playing with my students, I'm practicing at home. My hands are getting like when I get people to tell me they're young and go, my hand hurts.
Tiffany Woolley:I'm like you ain't seen nothing yet, you know, I mean your hands need to be insured.
Brent Look:I mean those are your, that's my life, those are your life, yeah, but when I find a guitar that sounds really good and I like the way it is. We're using guitar as an example and I can play all day and I have no hand pain. That's a winner for me, Really. Yeah, Because now the guitars that I have there's a reason I have these different guitars. I can play nonstop, have no hand pain.
Tiffany Woolley:That's amazing actually.
Brent Look:Something with the design obviously yeah, and I had a guitar company build a custom guitar for me once and, uh, everything was really good and they couldn't get the wood. After a while, they're building this custom guitar and I designed it. It was going to be great. Then they couldn't get the wood they were supposed to get and not thinking that when they finished the guitar, instead of it weighing 8 pounds, it weighed 13 and a half pounds.
Tiffany Woolley:That's crazy. So what is the weight of an average guitar?
Brent Look:I would say somewhere around 8 pounds 8.5. You could go up to 9. They vary, Like if you look at the same guitar out of the same factory, same model, they can vary a little bit. But I kept telling my wife when I had that guitar I'm like my leg is going numb, I wonder if there's something wrong with me. And she's like, have you been playing that guitar? It was literally from the point, it was pointy, it was literally making my leg go numb.
Tiffany Woolley:And then I said it oh my gosh.
Scott Woolley:But you play a wide range of instruments. Yes, I mean, but you play a wide range of instruments, guitar being your primary. Do you prefer any other instruments? I love?
Brent Look:piano, I love piano and I love drums a lot. Percussion is great. I mean, it's the whole groove of the song.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, it's the majority of the songs too.
Scott Woolley:So, in your course of producing music and creating music, are you laying tracks where you're playing all the instruments?
Brent Look:Yes, I've done complete albums, laying, done all the instruments. I did this one thing build under Mood Candy through a Canadian label. I did that. I played every instrument on that record. I played all the drums, all the bass, all the guitars, all the keyboards, all the drums, all the bass, all the guitars, all the keyboards, all the vocals. And then Eric Schilling came in and helped me put it all together and fix some of my small engineering errors.
Tiffany Woolley:I mean to me, there's so many different brain powers that you're dealing with it's hard. I mean, it's really like a lot of and even with now like the amps and all that kind of like to me. I don't even understand how all that works.
Brent Look:Yeah, a lot of times, you know we'll use amps. We also have things that go directly into the computer now that sound very good, but I'm still an amp guy. I have an endorsement deal with the Hiwan Amplification Company and I love their stuff so they've been very good to me so I'll use it. They found me online, that's amazing.
Tiffany Woolley:They found you online they found me online.
Brent Look:I was doing a video of me playing through a HiWatt amplifier and they really liked it and they reached out to me. Would you like to be an endorsed artist? Sure, why not I use them all the time.
Tiffany Woolley:Well, and I would think too, you could bring such, you know, other people to their amp. Yes, and they've grown a lot these last years.
Brent Look:In the 70s that amplifier company. Everybody was using them. They were all these old videos of studio stuff. You'll always see one of those high watts there. Really, now they've made a comeback.
Scott Woolley:Why do you think they've made a comeback?
Brent Look:Well, it's been bought and sold a couple times and there was some deal where they sold they couldn't use the name in North America. I don't know what that deal was, but now they own the full rights again and the production is up and there are major music stores across, you know, across. Many nations are starting to pick them up again.
Scott Woolley:So you've opened for a lot of very interesting and great bands. Yes, and it's been fun. So when you're opening up for a band like Journey or Aerosmith, what goes through your head before getting on stage, where you're opening up a band like that is uh are you trying? To do? Are you trying to get on stage that the crowd likes you better than you?
Brent Look:know, yeah, I think there's always a competition factor in me, even though I know that people are there to see the other band mostly, you know, and pretty much a lot and and the sound might not be as good as them. Why is that? I always think that they don't turn everything on for the opening act.
Tiffany Woolley:Oh, that's so funny to think that Really.
Brent Look:Yeah, I don't know how it is now, but I used to think that I'm like, yeah, these EQs right here, we'll leave them off for now, that's funny. So you don't have someone on your team, we have somebody on our end, but they're not going to be completely familiar with the whole setup that they're running, Because we, especially back in the analog days, we know how much gear was all over the place. I tell you it's more digitally oriented Is it really yeah so it's a lot less gear, a lot less.
Scott Woolley:So do you consider, do you think that's good or bad? Do you prefer the analog?
Brent Look:I think the analog is really cool, but I think cost-wise.
Voice Over:I'm doing a tour.
Brent Look:I mean the digital is better. Digital with the light show might not be as bright sometimes. Some of the analog stuff was wow. As we know, 500 watt cans of lights or 1,000 watts melt the drummer Right.
Tiffany Woolley:It's pretty 100-watt cans of lights or 1,000 watts, melt the drummer.
Scott Woolley:Right Right, I'm a really poor guy. It's pretty interesting that they may not make you sound like you sound. You know what's wild.
Brent Look:I came up with that thing one time and I thought it. I can't remember what artist was the headliner, but I saw this band Stars S-T-A-R-S-E and they had some success. Many big artists thought they were a great band. They were managed by the same people that did Kiss. They needed a lot of attention. Everything was geared towards Kiss, was it Doc McGee? No, I think Doc might have done something with Bill Acorn or something.
Voice Over:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brent Look:I think that's what it was. And I saw them open up now I can't remember the name of the headlining act figures. I saw them open up I'm like, yeah, that sounds pretty good. Then I saw them in town two months later in a smaller venue, being the headliner, and it sounded great and I was like that's weird. Huh. You know that's why I started getting this idea. But it could have been the venue, could have been the venue, but they frequency analyze all that stuff. You know that it's much better than so.
Scott Woolley:Being in the being in the music industry as long as you have, has there been a significant change that you would say has been the most significant change in the industry being in it From when you started to where we are today.
Brent Look:Well, obviously one of the things we talked about was the tours are the big money-making item. The streams, the artists don't get much off each stream. It's like what?
Tiffany Woolley:I don't even understand all that 0.005 cents per stream or something.
Brent Look:So when you say stream, that's not somebody buying the song. Right, because there's no physical item.
Tiffany Woolley:It's a download of like.
Brent Look:Right, or just a stream where you're just listening to it.
Scott Woolley:Well, it's like a BMI ASCAP kind of royalty, where it's so small it's so, yeah, you've just got to play Well and it's like now there's music that you can add to a post on social media.
Tiffany Woolley:That's true, and there's just the music is.
Brent Look:But that also makes it so, me being a smaller artist that I have so many different outlets to do this myself.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, you get your back.
Scott Woolley:People can access you. So do you have a library of music that you own? That's yours? Yeah, Do you monetize it?
Brent Look:Do you? Yeah, I have stuff that's monetized. Most of that stuff will come on YouTube when it's monetized the commercials. Youtube is probably the best bet for any of that, because when you do Spotify, apple and everything, it's the small percentage where we talked about and the way you get around. That is, if you're a superstar, instead of getting a million albums sold, you can get billions of streams. I hadn't expected somebody recently, but the billion streams still doesn't.
Scott Woolley:In these days and times doesn't equate to very much money.
Brent Look:But it equates a lot better than smaller artists. Smaller artists aren't making much at all, correct? But the youtube is probably the best thing because you get that similar monitor uh, you get that similar money off that. But you also have commercials you get money off of. We're not talking big unless you're big, right, unless you really catch on, but you, you do have the two aspects, yeah yeah. So I have a catalog. I own some stuff I split up with a bunch of people that wrote it, but most of the stuff I own all the rights.
Tiffany Woolley:Would you ever share those and have other people produce it or sing it?
Brent Look:Yes, yes, I would do that. I would totally do that. I did this one thing where I did a volkswagen commercial once. They took one of my songs and I got money from that and not enough, but I got money from that and they took my vocals off the song. Can you send me the song? Can you send us a song without the vocals? I'm like why you don't like my vocals? No, it's a background thing.
Tiffany Woolley:You know oh that's so funny.
Scott Woolley:So, is there a good career in creating music like that and trying to sell it, trying to license it?
Brent Look:Yeah, I think today, unless you're on tour, I think the best way is to try to get other avenues, try to get other people to do your songs, because you're not out there promoting it. And years ago I was always out there promoting for years and years and years and years. I think I'm just burnt out on that whole thing, but I miss it a little bit.
Scott Woolley:So if there was, I got a question. If there was one artist that you could sit down with and ask them a question or two, oh, that's tough. Who would that artist be? What would that question be? Is there an artist that you maybe never sat and you would have loved to have sat with and asked?
Brent Look:Oh boy, that's really tough. Wow, you know who would be great to talk to? Would be, and this is not mine, I know who mine is what is yours, just curious, tell me yours.
Scott Woolley:Mine. Well, I've met so many.
Brent Look:You've met so many.
Scott Woolley:I've had the opportunity to sit with so many. Elvis Presley.
Tiffany Woolley:He was so, so obsessed with Elvis.
Brent Look:Elvis would be. That's a great answer.
Scott Woolley:A couple years, like three years ago, at Christmastime, with my whole family and relatives and there must have been 30 people sitting around the table having Christmas dinner we were all asking everyone I don't know if you remember this everyone was asking who would you like to meet?
Brent Look:That's a great question, and I've always thought the one person that I have never met I would love to spend a day with would be Elvis Presley. Wow, that's a great answer.
Tiffany Woolley:That's tough to beat that answer, and what would you ask?
Brent Look:him. I mean I would love to met Jimi Hendrix. I don't know if I would spend the day with him. I spent time with Richie Blackmore, so I couldn't do that. When I was a 15-year-old kid, I got to jam with the guy. What?
Scott Woolley:were you telling me?
Brent Look:Yeah, I said, yeah, I know the song backwards and forwards, forwards and backwards and I played it for him. He goes that's really good, but that's wrong. And then he sat there and everybody's like, wow, you got him on a good day. So Jimi Hendrix might be a person that you Jimi Hendrix, but also, which is surprising for me, I like to sit down with Elton John and watch him play he's a talent too, Because he blows me away At this age. He's on stage and he's jamming out a lot of these parts.
Scott Woolley:We got the opportunity. It's.
Tiffany Woolley:Long time ago.
Scott Woolley:Long time ago. Yeah, small little group of people in a room for dinner, yeah, and Elton was there at the dinner got up, got on the piano and for 90 minutes, just him and the piano. Wow, I'm going to tell you, it sounded like he had the entire band behind him and it was just him singing and playing the piano, and it was the sound that he got out of. That piano was just.
Voice Over:Wow and.
Scott Woolley:Tiffany and I sat there and we were just like, and we were like 10 feet from him while he put an hour and a half playing. It was amazing, wow, amazing.
Tiffany Woolley:Well, and he's like one of those you know once-in-a-generational individuals too he is, but I've always loved how he had that partnership with that, bernie Tom.
Brent Look:Yeah, that worked.
Tiffany Woolley:And it worked, and they knew it and they babied it and they just basted it and really took it to another level.
Brent Look:Yeah, and I think some people forget how much of an amazing piano player he is, because last time I saw him play years I don't know four or five years ago. I mean he's up there playing and I know they're jamming out. I mean I'm talking like his performances are like flawless.
Voice Over:Yeah.
Brent Look:And a lot of it's off the top of his head.
Scott Woolley:I've seen him many times. Yeah, you know him, and Billy Joel him by himself.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, remember that face-to-face tour. Oh, that was awesome.
Scott Woolley:Oh so good, but the night that he got up and played for all of us. I mean, I'm telling you that he played for 90 minutes and it sounded like he had the entire band riffing, because the sound he got out of that piano was incredible and his voice was just off the Richter scale. Yeah, it was just off the rectus scale.
Brent Look:Yeah, I saw him recently with somebody I can't remember on the TV. I can't remember who it was and this was recent. I know he's not touring, but he's still going to do some shows.
Tiffany Woolley:Oh, he does yeah.
Brent Look:Yeah, and I was still blown away. I'm like, wow, he's older and his vocal, you know, because you know, when people get older they start to lose their vocal a little bit. It, you know, I always say the people that lose it first. Yeah, you still got it.
Tiffany Woolley:He does the ones that yelled their whole rock career I had a music teacher in high school who told me that I forget what artist he was like. That person will not have a voice in 10 years or something like that.
Scott Woolley:It's amazing like stephen toller lasted this long which I remember as a kid, tom jones they used to say that about yeah, that his voice wouldn't last. But he's still, yeah, still playing.
Tiffany Woolley:Why? Because they're like pulling from a different vocal place or something. Yeah, he was yelling out he was a great performer as well.
Brent Look:Yeah, and see like, I saw Duran Duran recently in Vegas and he sounds great. No yelling in that, right, no yelling. And then I saw who else was I saying? Oh, my friend saw Steve Miller and he said Brent, he sounded great. I'm like that's because he never yelled Right.
Voice Over:Wow.
Tiffany Woolley:Wow.
Scott Woolley:It does play. So Jimi Hendrix, anyone else besides Jimi Hendrix? Oh, that's rough.
Brent Look:I would have said the Elvis thing in my top three, because that's a that changed rock and roll. I know I would have loved to sit down with Chuck Berry.
Scott Woolley:I've had that opportunity a number of times. Oh, you're very lucky. Yeah, he's a wonderful guy yeah.
Brent Look:I mean, like he changed everything for guitar too. You know, and there were so many times in guitar polls. You know, we get mad and we look at our favorite thing. We look at top 10 or top 20 polls and we're like why is that person not in there? Why are you up on number three? You should be on 23. And now I seem creeped more up in these polls. It's like an athlete sometimes, and I hate when athletes, when they do athlete stuff, they compare records today compared to years ago.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, you can't. That's not fair man, it's not, I agree.
Brent Look:Yeah, so like I mean, think about the training.
Scott Woolley:Well, if you compare it the same way and you think what you're saying and you think about music yeah, Think about the amount of artists from years ago that performed, sang but could really play an instrument yeah, Either it be piano or guitar or drums Today. Like, who are the bands that are coming out today that you can say they're really great on the guitar or drums?
Brent Look:That's true, and we can fix everything digitally.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, which is kind of bizarre to think about. It is.
Brent Look:You know today, a long time ago, I learned because I would charge when I did studio work. I would charge kind of by the hour and I'd say, but three hour minimum, Right, right. And then you go in and they copy and paste your parts all over the place and I'm like I'm only doing three hours. But the old days I was probably there making money the whole day, yeah, but like I learned that lesson really quickly. Then Eric Schilling taught me he goes, you can't charge like that anymore. These are not the old days. You charge by the project.
Tiffany Woolley:Have you ever played a music festival?
Brent Look:Yes, I've played some music festivals, boy. That was a long time ago. I did that with the Moods bands, where there are many, many different bands. That one I have not Now, if I would have stayed with the Scott Stapp thing. He's been doing more music festivals a lot recently than he's ever done, so that's how they're making these big concerts. They get all these people to come there, correct?
Tiffany Woolley:They bring their fans. It. That's what I mean. It's like stage coaches this weekend. I'm like seeing all that Stage coach, I think, this weekend.
Brent Look:Yeah, but you know what I'd love to do? Some festivals, that'd be a lot of fun.
Scott Woolley:So, going back to because you've played with so many different and interesting and great people yes, Is there an individual? If you had the opportunity to play with that you never have, who would that be?
Brent Look:Oh, that's really tough, boy, that's really tough.
Scott Woolley:Boy, they could be dead or alive.
Brent Look:Oh, they could be dead or alive. That's a song by the way.
Brent Look:Wow, I would have loved to by the way, yes, wow, I would have loved to jam with the Hendrix. I would have loved. That would have been probably my One of my big ones. And there was a jazz guy named Alan Holsworth who is a guitar player's guitar player. Like people that are really legendary guitar players have talked about, that guy scares me really. He's just so great. And so eddie van halen is he still alive? He died some years ago, four or five years I believe. Eddie van halen even paid for one of his records and other famous guitar players go, that guy is like, uh, even heavy metal guys. You wouldn't think because he was like jazz fusion, even heavy metal guys. Go like. I saw somebody the other day. This guy, ingway malmsteen, who's a very famous heavy metal guitar player, says who blew you away the most?
Brent Look:he goes, alan holdworth, he goes, my god really that being a guy I'm not familiar with that name or, or I did get to jam with Jaco Pastore, the legendary bass player who passed away, but I never got to spend time with him, you know, right, that would have been awesome, yeah, interesting. But the Hendrix thing I would think would be awesome.
Tiffany Woolley:I mean, I feel like everybody with a guitar passion wants five minutes of that.
Brent Look:Yeah, or Eddie Van Halen would be another good one for guitar.
Tiffany Woolley:He's another one that was gone too soon too yeah.
Brent Look:But as far as the day with that would be Elton John. Elton John, yeah, I want to watch him play, Because piano, I love piano too. Can you show me that run?
Tiffany Woolley:Songwriting. So to me it's the lyrics.
Brent Look:How'd you come up with that?
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, and I love hearing the stories behind all those too.
Voice Over:That's right.
Tiffany Woolley:What are your thoughts on these artists coming up today? Are you impressed? I'm starting to really like yes, I'm getting impressed again.
Brent Look:Okay, there was a period of time, and I have nothing against rap, but I'm just saying there was rap, rap, rap, rap, rap. Yes, and I don't have anything against rap, right I?
Tiffany Woolley:kind of like the old school rap better because it was fun and not so serious. And it was fun most people do, yeah it wasn't as dark it wasn't as dark.
Brent Look:That's a great way to put it, but some of these new artists that are coming up are very talented, I feel so excited again myself.
Tiffany Woolley:Maybe I'm only paying attention to it because my kids are bringing it to my forefront, but I feel like we're kind of in this resurgence of bands and teams and music and the words, the lyrics, they're, I mean, clever.
Scott Woolley:But they're music artists that are basically singers. A lot of them don't write their own music. Yes, and most of them, don't play an instrument. That's true, maybe they know how to play an instrument, but they're not performing their instrument on stage.
Brent Look:Right, they're not showing their skill. You mentioned Benson Boone, who's really popular. They're not showing their skill on an instrument with their vocal.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, he doesn't Right. We don't have as much of that, I agree, you know just another one who's playing stadiums, but he's singing, singing, yeah, yeah, he's singing.
Scott Woolley:You got to give some respect to Taylor Swift, because she plays the piano, she plays the guitar and she's a worker. Yes, those three and a half hour concerts and with her she does like promote.
Tiffany Woolley:I would say her opening acts are literally huge.
Brent Look:That's true.
Tiffany Woolley:I mean my girls felt like they went to a whole other concert.
Brent Look:Can I tell you something? She is so big and her opening acts are so important, but I think she'd sell the thing out all by herself.
Tiffany Woolley:Oh, without it out, oh yeah.
Brent Look:Wow, we haven't seen anything like this with her, with an artist, in a while. That's a newer artist, you know, no, but you know, if you think back, we have an artist in the past, like 20 years ago or so that, like when John Mayer was really breaking out.
Tiffany Woolley:Okay, you're right.
Brent Look:He was Okay, you're right, the guy can sing great and play great, so I never really cared for him.
Scott Woolley:Yeah, but I was involved in promoting a jingle ball a number of years ago.
Tiffany Woolley:And he was like what are you?
Scott Woolley:doing. He wasn't a headliner. He played in the middle of the 10 acts and so forth and I happened to get like 10 tickets. We sat right in the front row in the center, yeah.
Tiffany Woolley:Because I was very involved. My kids want to know why he doesn't have that pole anymore. But I took a bunch of Tiffany and I.
Scott Woolley:We took a bunch of great good friends and so forth, and he got up with a stool, sat on the edge of the stage right up front with a stool and a guitar and I was blown away. I could not believe that this guy could just rip a guitar. I could not believe that this guy could just rip a guitar. It just was fantastic. He's so good.
Brent Look:I had a whole other respect for him after that show. You know, I think you've stumbled upon something that I think that I know this, but I don't talk about it. People that can carry the whole thing by themselves.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, a one-man band, literally, that's tough.
Scott Woolley:He sat there. I I mean honest, a little stool. That was stood up on the stool with the guitar and for 25 minutes because they were all short. You know the jingle ball is and he just every song was just yeah.
Tiffany Woolley:Keegan do the rights yeah, I was on say he does write sings and plays sings very well and plays very well. Yeah, that doesn't happen as much anymore but I feel like there was like he didn't, he didn't grow through, like I feel like he kinda plateaued, he just disappeared but we went to another thing, yeah it was actually for a wake for a person that we knew, a friend.
Scott Woolley:We went to Minnesota and Rob Thomas yeah, in a small little place, yeah, performed in honor of our friend because he knew him. Yeah, same thing. When Rob got up, you know, he stood, I don't know, played for 20 minutes and he was guitar and him singing.
Voice Over:That's just awesome.
Scott Woolley:Yeah, and again it was like another whole respect for him, Another very good singer.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, he's a talent too.
Scott Woolley:He kept everyone just mesmerized by that 15, 20 minutes that he sang. Yeah, he played the guitar.
Brent Look:Yeah, I don't think I've ever done a big show where it's by myself, but it wouldn't bug me I'd do it. I did shows with the Scott Stapp where sometimes we didn't have a band and it'd be a large audience but just me and him right you know like here I am trying to mold three guitar players into one three guitar parts into one acoustic part.
Tiffany Woolley:But just such a challenge, I mean it's, it's tough but I, but I could see you doing that.
Scott Woolley:Yeah, I know.
Tiffany Woolley:And enjoying it.
Brent Look:Yeah, and then you understand how when you have a famous composition, like a classical piece, and you have to make it for piano and let's say it was for an orchestra- and you have to choose.
Voice Over:What parts am I going to?
Brent Look:put on this piano song.
Scott Woolley:You're going to obviously leave some stuff out, and I just want to say for anyone who's listening and watching us at this podcast is they should look you up. Oh, that's so nice of you, thank you.
Brent Look:Just type in my name. I know which is so awesome.
Scott Woolley:You're an individual, like I just said about the two other guys, that when you start playing the guitar it's mesmerizing, it's like wow.
Tiffany Woolley:Thank you.
Brent Look:I'm always trying to get better and better and better. You know, it's so funny, like richie blackmore told me. You know, like a reg artist they say you want to get here skill wise, you want to get to this level, and he told me this is the second time I spent time with him. He told me this is the second time I've spent time with him. He told me he goes, but then you get there and you're like you know what? I really want to go here.
Tiffany Woolley:And it just keeps going.
Brent Look:That's the best, that's the scale. So.
Scott Woolley:Richie Blackmore and you'll understand this used to be, or was, the guitarist for Deep Purple. Okay, so, when you met all the guys from Deep Purple, I produced Deep Purple.
Brent Look:DVD, that's right, and Steve Morris, I bet no it was Steve Morris, yes.
Tiffany Woolley:That was a fun night.
Scott Woolley:And all the guys at Deep Purple that day were all hanging out with Tiffany, yeah.
Tiffany Woolley:That was my almost famous day. Like that movie. No, I got you Totally.
Scott Woolley:And when I you know, over the years producing shows, I always would bring a guitar and have the band sign it afterwards, and a lot of times I used that guitar for I would give it to a charity or something to be sold off and auctioned off because it would be signed by all these great people. And that particular day I said Tiffany your job today, because she wanted to come to the show and just see what's going on and producing a live music show.
Tiffany Woolley:I didn't really know any of the music.
Scott Woolley:She didn't know the music that day either and I said just go around, because they all wanted to talk to Tiffany and hang out with her yeah. And I said just have all the guys sign it. So she had all the guys sign it, but didn't have him. Morris signed it. And I signed it, but didn't have him. Morris signed it. And then he came over to her and was like what's wrong with me? How come I'm not going to sign the guitar?
Brent Look:That's so funny. Do you want my autograph?
Tiffany Woolley:No, no, no, that's so funny.
Brent Look:That's a hard role to fill when you get famous people in a band and you replace them.
Tiffany Woolley:Yes, I know that's a lot of stress, isn't it? The guy from Journey did that right.
Brent Look:Oh, they got the singer when they replaced him.
Tiffany Woolley:The singer that was so crazy From the Philippines. Yeah, that was crazy.
Brent Look:You replace somebody really famous. That's a tough thing.
Tiffany Woolley:Yeah, that is so crazy and he actually did a pretty good job.
Scott Woolley:Yeah, I mean Not the same as.
Tiffany Woolley:Steve.
Brent Look:Perry, what's that? I mean it resurrected the band and they found him on YouTube. I think, yeah, I know.
Tiffany Woolley:So YouTube is quite an interesting thing.
Scott Woolley:Youtube is a big deal and because of that, inxs tried to do the same thing. Yes, oh, they did. Yeah, they tried to replace, and find someone to replace, michael Hutchinson, but it didn't work out.
Brent Look:Yeah, sometimes it doesn't work.
Scott Woolley:I think they created a television like a reality show to try to find the new band member. Wow, years ago, wow, didn't work out.
Brent Look:Yeah, You'll find people, but it's got to gel with the band too. You got to gel.
Tiffany Woolley:It does. It has to work Well. It's exciting Fun day.
Scott Woolley:Yeah, fun day, so we appreciate you sitting with us. I had a great time Chatting and talking. I had a great time. So much fun.
Tiffany Woolley:We look forward to you showing up at the house every week, now twice a week. I know I feel so grateful. Well, I'm not coming today.
Brent Look:I didn't make one for today, okay, but we'll do next Thursday, but I'll see you on Saturday, awesome.
Scott Woolley:I'll see you on Saturday and we'll very soon I want to do it at Criterion.
Brent Look:If we can do it, that'd be wonderful, and I love that place.
Tiffany Woolley:So check out Brent, look and check out the Ruffles.
Brent Look:Check out the Ruffles, follow us.
Tiffany Woolley:Follow us.
Brent Look:Totally yeah. So we'll get that done and I'm really excited Because I'm ready for us to start the next song with the Ruffles band. So I need that when you have a chance.
Scott Woolley:Which is another interesting and great thing about your career and what you bring to the table especially people listening is that we're sitting with a guy, that if you've got a family, and the range of looking and wanting to produce or create a band.
Brent Look:I've done it. I even worked at that Pinecrest school for a while, part-time, because I couldn't do full-time, I was too busy. But my big thing was, like, can you make bands for us, like rock bands? So, I created like three rock bands in one school.
Scott Woolley:We need more bands, and there's a lot of talented kids out there that just don't have the opportunity.
Brent Look:Yeah, when they gave me the thing and they said you want to do this at the school, you'll create these bands, I'm like that's great. I would love to do that for to get these kids into this because they used music was a bigger part in school years ago appreciate you being with us today. So much for having. Thanks for listening.
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